Oklahoma City bombing, Islamic based?

A DHS memo used the Oklahoma City bombing as an example of why the government needs to watch out for pro-life and pro-gun limited government Americans. My point is that the DHS is suppose to be protecting us against "Islamic" fascism, and not used as a political tool against the radical left’s opponents. Now we have the point that the Oklahoma City bombing has Islamic ties:

Responding to the Obama administration's attempt to justify a controversial "right-wing extremism" report by citing Timothy McVeigh, a counter-terrorism group has posted a video statement by a prominent Democrat investigator who contends the Oklahoma City bomb plot was hatched not by right-wingers but by Islamic jihadists.

David Schippers, the chief counsel for the 1998 impeachment trial of President Clinton, probed the bombing with investigative reporter Jayna Davis, author of "The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing", by WND Books. Davis asserts McVeigh and Terry Nichols were not the lone conspirators but part of a greater scheme involving Islamic terrorists and at least one provable link to Iraq. The explosion April 19, 1995, at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building killed 168 people, including 19 children, and injured another 684.

In the video, released by America's Truth Forum, Schippers says there's "no question the Oklahoma City bombing was a part of a state-sponsored attack on the heartland of the United States."

"I have been asked about the Oklahoma bombing and whether there was any kind of federal cover-up. The simple and direct answer is yes," he said. "Unquestionably, a federal cover-up beginning in 1995 and continuing to today."

As WND reported last week, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security cited McVeigh as a reason that "right wing" interests must be monitored closely by his agency.

And it is sad that the "powers" refuse to take a serious look at this:

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., who produced a report two years ago on the alleged foreign-link to the bombing, told WND he experienced a "high level of frustration" during his own investigation "with how many people, from local newspapers to the FBI, to just even other members of Congress, who are just anxious not to even give another look at this monstrous crime that really appears to be unresolved."

Rohrabacher attributes some of opposition to people in a bureaucracy trying to cover up incompetence and bad decisions. But his report offers insight into the mindset of the Clinton administration, suggesting the former president did not want to confront the possibility Islamic terrorists – and ultimately a Middle Eastern state – were involved.

It's now clear, Rohrabacher told WND at the time, that the Clinton administration had "an aversion to any type of efforts by our government that would in some way require the use of force against foreign enemies, and especially in the Middle East."

Schippers points out McVeigh partner Nichols made several trips to the Philippines prior to the bombing, and there is evidence he met with Islamic jihadists tied to al-Qaida.

Former Clinton counter-terrorism official Richard Clarke notes in his book "Against All Enemies" that Nichols was in the Philippines in the same city at the same time as Ramzi Yousef, who was convicted of participation in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

"We do know that Nichols' bombs did not work before his Philippine stay and were deadly when he returned," Clarke writes.

Schippers also points out Yossef Bodansky, the director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, issued a warning two months prior to the Oklahoma City bombing that Iran-sponsored Islamist terrorists had recruited 'two lily whites' – people like McVeigh and Nichols – to carry out the bombing of an American federal building.

Schippers contends the FBI failed to establish a tie between McVeigh and right-wing militias. Some independent investigators dispute that, including Jesse Trentadue, a Salt Lake City attorney who believes McVeigh was aided by a white supremacist group that had been infiltrated by the FBI.

Trentadue obtained FBI documents in his Freedom of Information Act suit against the agency, which he says bolster his belief the FBI had prior knowledge of the bombing.

Davis, who began her investigation while covering the bombing as a local TV reporter, dismisses the theory centered on a German national who was in the U.S. illegally in 1995, Andreas Carl Strassmeier, and domestic neo-Nazis at a white supremacist compound in Oklahoma called Elohim City.

"FBI agents have testified the neo-Nazi, Elohim City connection is nothing more than a dry hole," Davis argues. "There's not one motel log, one phone log, one fingerprint or eyewitness account that can tie any of these Nazi conspirators or Strassmeier to overt commission of a crime."

Talking about opening a can of worms.

Comments

[trent dlugosh]

Sibby really...I mean come on. What would you say if a left wing blogger posted a story about how the federal government knew the Twin Towers were about to be attacked but nothing to prevent it, or some of the other crazy stories about the federal government actually wiring the building to bring it down in a controlled demolition. You would call that what it is, the rantings of the lunatic fringe. Just because this particular lunatic fringe rant fits in better with your world view doesn't mean it is any less lunatic or any less fringe. Once you believe one government conspiracy story then you have to start believing all of them and if they are all true then America is not what any of us think it is. You really should be more responsible Sibby.

[Braden]

"My point is that the DHS is suppose to be protecting us against "Islamic" fascism"

Oh, I see. So terrorism of any other kind isn't really dangerous. Please.

The point is, whether or not they had outside help, McVeigh and Nichols were right-wing terrorists who murdered hundreds of people. They were followed by another right-wing extremist, Eric Rudolph, the Olympic Park bomber. Right-wing terrorism (no, not conservatism) is obviously a threat. Denouncing a report that says so only makes you look foolish.

[Sam]

Having read the article you link to, I found it full of speculation and more innuendo than fact, and repitition of the right's talking points about how DHS is targeting conservatives and soldiers (they're not, just violence advocaters trying to recruit from those groups, like the teabag twitterer recently arrested. See http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Man_Arrested_Over_Twitter_Massacre_Threats_37200.html)

He was in the Phillipines "at the same time" as a known terrorist? I'm in New England "at the same time" as some neo-nazis, so I must be a neo-nazi, right? His bombs didn't work brfore? How do we know that? Because he didn't blow anything up? Because he said so? No agency wanted to pursue a possible link to the Millde East? Maybe because there was no "there" there.

The guy's favorite book was "The Turner Diaries", written by a well known neo-nazi! This is a blatant attempt as revisionism to undercut the DHS as well as sell more of their own books.

[Steve Sibson]

There is no organized "right-wing" group that wants to commit terrorism. The only organized group than can be directly tied to the Oklahomna City bombing is Islamic in nature. A fool is one who refuses to see the truth.

What we need to look into are threats that include several nuclear bombs going off in our major cities at the same time. No pro-gun group or pro-life group could possibly be expected to do that, but those who want to turn the entire world into an Islamic Nation would.

[Sam]

And why would you think they're not looking into those?

This is a diversionist fantasy, seriously. "Oh, we'd better run down ghosts and hope no one sneaks in the back door!" Is that how we're supposed to do this? There are many organized right-wing groups who are calling for violence. Wouldn't it be a good idea to see which ones might actually do it? Just as I would want to see about a left-wing group calling for violence.

A fool is also someone who cannot break out of their shell to see that they may be wrong.

[Steve Sibson]

"There are many organized right-wing groups who are calling for violence."

So why were'nt those groups named in the DHS memo? Why are they not being arrested? Instead Americans who believe in the classical liberal founding of this country that is being destroyed by the Progressive movement that Obama is now leading are targeted.