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The desperate Dumped Daschle Disciples

A couple of Disciples from the Dumped Daschle are getting awful desperate in the aftermath of the news that Ellsworth is on the base-closing list. First we have Todd Epp calling John Thune a liar:

John, you tried to pull a Joe Namath and promise a win over the Colts in the Super Bowl. You did a "bait and switch" on the South Dakota people. Only instead of getting people to buy the next size up television or DVD at some low rent discount store, you got South Dakotans put their trust and their jobs IN YOUR HANDS because YOU SAID YOU KNEW THE PRESIDENT AND OTHER IMPORTANT PEOPLE who could save EAFB.

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

I don’t see where the lie is. And if Epp is concerned about liars, then maybe he should have a talk with Roger Andal, another Dumped Daschle Disciple. Epp posted a challenge from Roger Andal to debate me. This is what Roger Andal said in an April 18 email to me:

I would debate you anytime and anywhere on this issue, but I would rather speak with a veteran who understands the issues.

Liar, liar pants on fire. Now you want to debate me? Beep, Beep, Beep, Beep: That's Roger Andal backing up.

Epp also claimed he wants Ellsworth to stay open. So instead of playing politics by calling John Thune a liar, why don’t he work with the Democrat Senator from South Dakota. He must think Tim Johnson is just taking up space in DC. Epp posted Johnson’s press release that included this:

"I am extremely disappointed that Secretary Rumsfeld and the Department of Defense have failed to recognize the invaluable contribution Ellsworth Air Force Base makes to our national security, and have recommended that it be closed," Johnson said.

So what is the "the invaluable contribution Ellsworth Air Force Base makes to our national security"? Tell us Epp, and then urge Tim Johnson to go to DC and explain it to the President. That is…if you really want to do something constructive to save Ellsworth.

Then we have Chad Schuldt, another Disciple of the Dumped Daschle, getting all hot and bothered about Epp’s partisan reaction:

Today’s news runs much deeper than the future of Ellsworth Air Force Base. Everyone (or at least nearly everyone) is on the same side of that issue — they want to see Ellsworth remain open because of the postive effect it has on our state’s economy and the role it plays in our nation’s defense. To suggest otherwise is just plain malicious, and frankly, outright false. Epp gets it 100% right in this post on the issue of keeping Ellsworth open — I echo what he says.

A couple of people left some hard hitting comments in reaction to that BS from the Clear Cut Kidder. Here is what Joe said:

Isn’t it odd that not one of the reasons given to save the base was National Security? Shouldn’t the primary concern about MILITARY bases be MILITARY readiness, and not clout (which outside of washington is called bribery?

I always love it when rural states talk the talk of smaller goverment, but become addicted to federal govenrment welfare such as subsidies and military bases. Can’t the good people of South Dakota think of another way to drive an economy other than the federal government? California has lost far more bases that it proportionally should during the first 3 rounds of BRAC, and you don’t see them complaining that the sky is falling.

Geez

Then Dan said:

Much of the South Dakota blogosphere is whining and bitching that our sugar daddy — the federal government — isn’t giving us enough things.

This is feminine and emasculating.

Instead of being on our knees — supposedly trying to elect the most pleasing Senator to the powers that be — South Dakota should be focusing on building new jobs of the future in our free market.

Not trying to suck government pork.

Joe and Dan totally cleaned the clock of the Clear Cut Kidder. The Dumped Daschle Disciples expect John Thune to pull a Daschle and save Ellsworth by playing politics. We now know why Daschle turned his back on the rule of law and turned the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton into a partisan circus. Clinton took Ellsworth off the base-closing list. What was in the best interest of national security did not matter. Buying votes for Tom Daschle was more important. And Daschle showed just how grateful he was when Clinton got caught with his pants down.

If Thune does get the President to trump the Pentagon, what will the rest of America think? What will all the people who have their bases closed think about South Dakota? We are just a bunch of weak whiny wimps who could care less about what we can do for our country…we only care about what our county can do for us. That is the message America has heard about South Daktoa for 22 years from George McGovern and 26 years from Tom Daschle. That doesn’t sound like the Democrat Party I joined in 1974. And it was because of the partisan circus Daschle conducted during the Clinton impeachment trial that provided the last straw. I left the Democrat Party. Todd Epp and Chad Schuldt are just reinforcing the correctness of that decision.

The South Dakota anti-war Democrats really could care less about the military. They say that Ellsworth is important to national security, but don’t explain how. Daschle has said many times that military spending should instead be spent on socialism. Daschle’s Disciples agree. They are only whining about Ellsworth because they want to take a political shot at John Thune.

South Dakota Democrats celebrate

Not too many people in South Dakota are happy about Ellsworth being among the bases to be closed, but they are all Democrats. For examples see Todd Epp and Chad Schuldt. Happy Friday the 13^th Todd and Chad.

UPDATE: The Argus Leader also celebrates.

MSM trickery

Red State has the details on another CBS News scandal. This time it is in regard to the Ken Starr quote that was supposedly in reference to the so-called nuclear option. They linked to this:

CBS, AP, and other outlets reported earlier this week that Starr had said that getting rid of the judicial filibuster would be a "radical, radical departure from our history and our traditions, and it amounts to an assault on the judicial branch of government."

This seemed like a very odd thing for Starr to say, so I contacted him.

He forwarded to me an email he had sent to someone else who had asked about this matter:

"In the piece that I have now seen, and which I gather is being lavishly quoted, CBS employed two snippets. The 'radical departure' snippet was specifically addressed -- although this is not evidenced whatever from the clip -- to the practice of invoking judicial philosopy as a grounds for voting against a qualified nominee of integrity and experience. I said in sharp language that that practice was wrong. I contrasted the current practice . . . with what occurred during Ruth Ginsburg's nomination process, as numerous Republicans voted (rightly) to confirm a former ACLU staff lawyer. They disagreed with her positions as a lawyer, but they voted (again, rightly) to confirm her. Why? Because elections, like ideas, have consequences. . . . In the interview, I did indeed suggest, and have suggested elsewhere, that caution and prudence be exercised (Burkean that I am) in shifting/modifying rules (that's the second snippet), but I likewise made clear that the 'filibuster' represents an entirely new use (and misuse) of a venerable tradition. . . .

"[O]ur friends are way off base in assuming that the CBS snippets, as used, represent (a) my views, or (b) what I in fact said."

Here is Rush Limbaugh’s reaction:

RUSH: He was not talking about the nuclear option. Once again, as CBS purposely misrepresented. He was not talking about the nuclear option whatsoever. He was talking about the practice of invoking judicial philosophy as a grounds for voting against a qualified nominee of integrity and experience. Now, I remember saying yesterday after playing this bite, I said, "This is absurd." Remember me saying that, my friends? This is absurd. It's stupid. How is the nuclear option "an assault on the judicial branch of government"? That's what didn't make sense to me yesterday -- and, I'll tell you what, I'm equally as guilty because I didn't suspect CBS of playing a game at all, and that's irresponsible on my part.

From now on whenever CBS does anything under the guise of news, that purports to shift the discussion on an ideological basis they are not to be trusted. There is a reason nobody is watching the CBS Evening News anymore, and it's not who anchors it. It's who's producing this garbage and who's putting this garbage together. Maybe in part the anchors here and there, but the bottom line is: CBS News cannot be trusted, because CBS News is not news. It's CBS commentary and editorializing under the guise of news. They are having to still make things up, take things out of context, basically lie about what people have said, in order to further an agenda, and the agenda in this case is, as usual at CBS, to harm Republicans and conservatives -- and in this case they used Ken Starr to do it. Now, what does this also tell you about their impressions of Starr? Because during the Clinton years, they hated this guy. They despised Ken Starr. Now all of a sudden they trot him out, and they're acting like he's the lone voice of reason among Republicans. Why in the world would they take a guy who they hate?

Why in the world would they take a guy who they despise and twist his words, take them out of context, as a means to hurt Republicans? The answer is: Because secretly they know he has integrity. They know he has credibility, and they know when they play this sound bite out of context that everybody is going to believe Ken Starr. "He said it! You gotta accept it!" It's not ultimate compliment to Starr in the sense of their impression of him, but it is the ultimate insult in terms of what they did.

Birds of a feather

From Kevin McCullough:

Meanwhile, in Weirdsville, USA, a disturbing story ran in a small Vermont paper. (Come to think of it, does Vermont have a large paper?)

According to the Bennington Banner, Howard Dean – whose job it is to enhance the prospects of the Democratic Party – chose instead to come out in support of a card-carrying socialist in Vermont's clamorous race for Jim Jeffords' soon-to-be-open U.S. Senate seat.

Instead of backing a Democrat for the upcoming Senate Race, Dean departed from his own party and endorsed the state's only congressman.

"A victory for Bernie Sanders, is a win for Democrats," said Dean. "Bernie is a strong candidate," he added.

Did we mention that Dean gets paid to endorse actual Democrats? Members of the socialist, communist, Green, and a whole host of other parties may in fact be indistinguishable from Democrats, but Terry McAuliffe never confused the matter by endorsing one.

Evidently Dean sees so many similarities in the socialist agenda, he's betting he can endorse someone outside his own party and get by with it. Of course, conservatives have seen the similarities for years, but seem to be pelted by boys who throw like sissies whenever they stand up and say so.

Daschle on Social Security crisis

No, I am not bringing up things Tom Daschle said about Social Security years ago. He said this last night:

An elderly South Dakota couple told former U.S. Sen. Tom Daschle in a letter that with the couple's 17 prescription drugs, the 84-year-old husband had to start a newspaper route to make ends meet.

Sounds like those dependent on Social Security are not experiencing financial security. Daschle also said that those who are dependent on the government’s Social Security are not free, but then he contradicts himself by saying government empowers and knocks freedom from government:

Daschle said that it is not freedom when people only have the choice to pay a pharmaceutical bill, buy groceries or lose their homes.

He said that he shares President Bush's hope that the world is moving toward freedom, but he said empowerment by the government, and not necessarily freedom from the government, is a part of a deeper freedom than the narrow vision of freedom the President has.

Sounds like a socialist's idea about freedom was the theme:

Daschle used much of the lecture to talk about freedom, the importance of people having the freedom to shape their own destinies and the current shallow meaning that some have of freedom.

Wouldn’t private accounts allow us to shape our own destinies? I can’t believe there are people out there that believes this guy. Forcing all Americans to be dependent on government at retirement and not allowing us the choice to instead elect private accounts is not freedom. It is not about shaping our own destinies. It is more like communism. There is nothing liberal about that.

So is that what Roger Andal came back from Vietnam to do...fight for the cause of communism? Him and John Kerry both.

Dems politicize military spending

Chad Schuldt, paid Daschle campaign staffer, gives us insight on the Democrats attitude toward Ellsworth:

Whether you like it or not, this is going to be politicized. South Dakota needs to be prepared for that.

The Clear Cut Kidder said that on March 17, 2005. The Daschle campaign tried to politicize the Ellsworth issue by saying Tom Daschle, as minority leader, can nominate a member to the committee making the base-closing list. The Rapid City Journal reports this in October 2004:

Six days before the three-term incumbent stands for re-election in a close race against Republican John Thune, Daschle touted how his job as leader of the Senate Democrats would give him a voice in the membership of a new base-closing commission.

Daschle told reporters and supporters that as the newly minted Senate minority leader in 1995, he nominated Rapid City businessman Al Cornella to the Defense Department's Base Realignment and Closure Commission.

"It is critical that we have our voice this time just as we did last time," Daschle said.

But did Cornella really have a voice in regard to Ellsworth or was Daschle just playing politics? Here is more from the RCJ piece:

About a decade ago, Daschle's nomination of Cornella drew fire from then-House Majority Leader Dick Armey, credited with designing the base-closure process.

"I assume this is a joke," Armey said of Cornella, who was then chairman of the local committee to save Ellsworth. "A parochial advocate should be testifying before the commission, not sitting on it."

During his confirmation hearings before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Cornella pledged to stay out of any deliberations dealing with Ellsworth.

"I will conduct myself in a fair and impartial manner," Cornella told the committee.

Cornella, now a member of the Commission on the Review of the Overseas Military Facility Structure of the United States, was in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday and did not respond to a message left with his staff at his Rapid City business.

So the base-closing process was suppose to be focused on what is in the best interest of America's security interest, and Daschle appoint a guy who would politicize the effort. That shows the Democrats true agenda. The anti-war Democrats would just as soon reduce military spending until buying votes with government spending enters the picture. The Ellsworth issue clear shows the true DC Tom Daschle. The Democrat agenda and partisan politics is more important than going to work for the bests interests of America.

The Veterans healthcare budget is another example of the Democrats politicizing the issue to further their socialist agenda. Roger Andal, a partisan Democrat operative who the South Dakota MSM uses as an expert on Veteran issues, demonstrated his true agenda with this comment from an email he sent me:

You mention Socialist, the VA is clearly a socialist type health care program, which is fine with me as it is the only way people like you are forced to participate in the wars this country fights.

I don’t believe most Veterans sacrificed for the cause of socialism. Andal also reveals his dislike for Americans, who must be forced to participate in wars. Andal actually represents a small minority of those who are on the far-left. Andal doesn’t care for Veterans as much as he cares for the socialist agenda of the Democrat Party. Andal politicizes the Veteran issue as he uses Veterans as political pawns.

UPDATE: Quentin Riggins has more on Ellsworth.

Another update: Whether or not Ellsworth is on the base-closing list, David Kranz wants the politics of the issue to continue:

"If Ellsworth is not on the list, there will be somebody on the list who thinks they shouldn't be and thinks Ellsworth should be closed, so they will come gunning for us, saying they should have the mission," Moffitt said. "So not being on the list doesn't mean we are safe."Moffitt feels good about Ellsworth's chances.

Rosen vs DeLay

From Rush Limbaugh:

RUSH: You know, there is a trial that started yesterday. I don't know if you people have heard about this, because the media would much rather talk about what's going on with Tom DeLay, but the criminal trial of David Rosen, a former staffer of Senator Clinton began yesterday, but who would know? "Certainly," as the Investor's Business Daily editorial today says, "not a public that's been swamped with news of representative Tom DeLay's troubles. But what laws has DeLay broken and what laws has he been accused of breaking? While it's not possible to answer the former with any degree of certainty, the answer to the latter question is 'none.' What laws has he been accused of breaking? None! David Rosen, on the other hand, is on trial for filing false campaign finance statements. The FBI says he deliberately understated by two-thirds the cost of a glitzy Hollywood fund-raiser to increase the amount of funds available to Clinton's Senate run in 2000. And it's not that the media are ignoring the trial altogether. They're simply not putting as much effort into it as they are in their attempt to smear DeLay. New York Times, for instance, put its Rosen trial preview story on the front of Monday's B section but the paper couldn't be bothered sending its own reporter to California to cover the proceedings, though Clinton represents New York. Instead, the Times relied on an AP report for Tuesday's second-day story."

In fact it's even worse than this, there was only one news truck outside the courthouse. You know who's it was? Fox. Fox News truck was the only trucking outside the courthouse, and the media is making a big deal out of that, showing Fox is bias. There are stories I think in the LA Times: "You know, this shows Fox's bias. They're the only truck there," and the judge in this case, I have to tell you, the judge in this case said Mrs. Clinton is not a target. She's not been a target. She's not going to be a target in this trial. The judge in this trial said if people looking at this as something to do with Mrs. Clinton; there's nothing here on Mrs. Clinton. (interruption) What? Her finance director, campaign finance director, David Rosen, a former staffer! One of her staffers, but it's not going to have a thing to do with her, regardless, doesn't mean anything. Don't look for this to involve Mrs. Clinton. Judge said this from the beginning of the trial yesterday, from the bench.

Thank you Todd Epp

I would like to thank Todd Epp for providing iron-clad proof on this point I made:

Democrat lies are perceived as reality when the MSM use Democrat shills disguised as experts, such as the "head of the political science department at South Dakota State University". In this case the lie is that only Democrats deserve credit when things go OK, but only Republicans are the blame when things go sour.

Todd Epp, a hardcore Democrat operative, loved this excerpt from yesterday’s David Kranz column:

Bob Burns, political science professor at South Dakota State University, said all three members of the state’s congressional delegation have been working to keep Ellsworth.

"If, in fact, Ellsworth is on the closing list coming from the Pentagon and remains on the list, Sen. Thune has more at stake than the other two members of the delegation because of how things are perceived," Burns said. "It is perceived (that way) by the public partly because he said he has the White House’s ear on the issue, and it is perceived that the White House owes Thune for his willingness to enter the race (against Daschle)."

This is the same professor I was referring to in the point i made about the MSM using experts to mislead. Jason at SDP provides us with evidence that will proof the above statement by the professor is false:

According to a knowledgeable official who spoke to FEDweek's sister publication Armed Forces News on grounds of anonymity, as of mid-December the following bases were being considered under the Base Realignment and Closure round of 2005

AIR FORCE-- Altus AFB, Oklahoma; Beale AFB, California; Brooks AFB, Texas; Cannon AFB, New Mexico; Columbus AFB, Mississippi; Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota; Goodfellow AFB, Texas; Grand Forks AFB, North Dakota; Hanscom AFB, Massachusetts; Kirtland AFB, New Mexico; Los Angeles AFB, California; McConnell AFB, Kansas; Nellis AFB, Nevada (to realign); Seymour Johnson AFB (to realign), North Carolina; Shaw AFB, South Carolina; and Vance AFB, Oklahoma.

Jason made this obvious conclusion:

This is back in December before Thune was a Senator and Daschle was still in office. The lefty blogs all claim that Daschle had the clout to keep the base off the closure list, but it was on the list in December. Either Daschle didn't have the clout or he just didn't bother trying.

Don’t expect to see the above revelation in a David Kranz column. This would destroy the perception that the Democrats want the general public to have about John Thune in regards to Ellswort. Kranz also doesn't ever put his college buddy on the spot.

Todd Epp, here is another example of pro-Democrat lies being promoted on the front-page of the Sioux Empire section of the Argus Leader. No wonder you enjoyed it so much.

The elitist Clear Cut Kidder

Ken Blancard of SDP took exception to the Clear Cut Kidder’s characterization of the SDP/NVB as petty. After Ken left a comment on the Kidder’s web site, a response form Kidder included this:

I understand you may have taken the entire episode seriously, but the whole thing between you, Schaff, and Newquist looked pretty silly to everyone on the outside.

This is a typical attitude of a far-left elitist. Not "everyone" considered their debate silly. But the Kidder thinks he can speak for us all. T the Kidder, blogging must just be a joke. The Kidder should not be speaking on behalf of those who are serious about what we believe.

The laugh of the day

David Newquist, a far-left South Dakota blogger [I should say anti-blogger] calls it quits. Excerpt:

Thune hired bloggers to carry his campaign to the Internet. Although we do not find evidence that the Thune blogs actually played a signficant role in the election, they did provide a record of the values, the motives, and the tactics of the campaign. The bloggers have carried out the tactics and themes of the campaign since the November election.

The basic rhetorical premises of the campaign are character assassination, falsification of facts, and malicious fabrication. Thune supporters ran a series of ads portraying Tom Daschle as a cohort of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. Toward the closing days of the campaign, Thune ran an ad over his name accusing Tom Daschle of wife-dumping and imputing discredit to his family. These ads were typical of the stream of hate-propaganda that used ad hominem attacks to advance his candidacy. The hate blogs have continued the tactics of hate propaganda as part of their daily prayer services in trying to drive anything that can be termed liberal and progressive from the land.

Falsification of facts? Wasn’t it the Daschle campaign who portrayed the leader of the Senate Democrats as pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-tax cut? The Congressional Record proves those to be lies. All I did was present that record. And that is hate? No, that is telling the truth.

Where were the Thune ads showing Daschle as a cohort of Saddam and Osana? Where was the wife-dumping ad? These ads were not typical, they are nonexistent.

Hatred? Newquist’s blog promoted the far-left hatred. They show hatred toward America, hatred toward Christians, and hatred toward the truth. I pray Newquist wakes up, becomes a conservative, and finds inner peace. That is the process that I started in 1999 when Tom Daschle chased me out of the Democrat Party.