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April 08, 2008

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Todd Epp @ SD Watch

Steve:

Like the new site design!

I'm not sure I would go as far as you would in eliminating education majors and an education certificate to teach. But you do have a good point about allowing people to teach who have extensive knowledge in an area. Why not let a former journalist teach journalism and English? Why not let a chemist teach chemistry?

I do think some pedagogy (right word?) for lay people turned teachers would be helpful as there are some methods to help people learn. Even as a soccer coach we are taught how to teach the game.

But I agree that our schools would be better and our students would be better served if qualified people from the community could also teach. Perhaps you can teach an accounting class and I can teach government?

Actually, Gov. Mickelson embarked part way down this path in the late 1980s. He gave state employees like me the right to take an hour or two off from work a week if we volunteered in the schools. I helped the Brookings High School yearbook. I felt my skills were put to good use, the teacher appreciated my real world experience, the kids were great, and I enjoyed it immensely. And we produced a wonderful yearbook. It also helped me appreciate what our classroom teachers do on a daily basis. Perhaps this idea could be dusted off again?

I'm just sayin'.

I hope you keep the comments open on all your posts.

Best regards,

Todd SD Watch http://www.southdakotawatch.net

SDWC Anon #42

Greetings Mr. Sibson.

Glad to see you have a post open for comments. I often read your site and enjoy almost every post I read. I too like your new site design, and look forward to more of your insight.

Keep swinging for Conservatism, Steve (may I call you Steve?) You've got Powers on the ropes and he's bleeding from both ears.

The big E has some valid points above. I think some practical teaching like he mentions might be a very good thing in our schools.

PP at the SDWC

...I'm on the ropes, with the #1 SD Blog?

(Seriously, stop smoking that stuff, it rots your mind)

Just because my opinion diverges from Sibby's from time to time doesn't mean we disagree on everything. It doesn't mean we agree on everything, either.

On this issue, I think reducing the bureaucracy is good, but I think it's best done through a return to more local control.

Steve's approach, while noteworthy, is a bit more extreme - to the point where it's unworkable.

Meg

Steve,

I stumbled across your blog while I was looking at news articles in education for a college course of mine. I am a student going to school for Spanish Education, and I must admit, I was really shocked to find that anyone would be open to the idea of eliminating Teacher Education programs in universities. As a student in one such program I cannot FATHOM what a "math major" would do if they just began "teaching" after graduating. Just because that graduate has a thorough knowledge of math does not mean that they could begin to teach others to understand, use, and appreciate math.

Requiring that teachers have a thorough knowledge of their content area is most definitely important. It's equally important as understanding students, how they communicate, and how they learn best. That is why the State of South Dakota requires it's teachers to be certified and in order to obtain that certification they must take a mandatory PRAXIS exam.

Teachers are the foundation of our country, working as educators, counselors, disciplinarians, and cheerleaders for their students. I really hope that you will change your opinion of the South Dakota Department of Education and their standards.

Sincerely,

Meg

[Sibby's response: Just because you have a degree in education does not guarantee that you can communicate and pass knowledge on to others. But if you don’t have the knowledge, then you definitely won’t be able to pass it on. A sound foundation in liberal arts will also include English, which will take care of the communication issues. The reason we don’t have that sound foundation in liberal arts is because the schools are spending way too much time playing psychologist, which methods are not good substitutes for disciple. I cannot agree with your position that there is adequate discipline in schools. Recently a teacher was attacked by her students, and the school did not back up the teacher.]

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